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Let’s get going!</span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: What are you most excited about people discovering in your book?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is actually three books in one. The book has three distinct parts: history about names of towns, cities, streets, and so on. The second part deals with power brokers that could potentially be puppet masters. The last part of the book is a reflection on where we are as a country and where we are possibly headed. This is, even if I say so myself, good value for money.</span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: What are some of the key ideas that inform what you’ve written?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As an adult I started asking myself whether politicians, not only in South Africa, have real power to change the country they govern, or if they are just puppets of the wealthy. Another key issue is how South Africa, at best, is going nowhere slowly. Hence one of the chapters is titled “Is South Africa already a failed state?” In another chapter, I explore when the state was really captured.</span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: What was the most difficult chapter to write?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There is a chapter about the Freemasons. They are definitely not a secret society but they are a society with secrets. I looked at some of the masons, both in South Africa and abroad, who achieved big things in life. In the process, I also discovered that even our own Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu were, yep, masons. </span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: George Orwell said, “Never use a long word where a short one will do.” Would you agree?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I agree 100%. Albert Einstein once said: “If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.” </span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: What’s the best music to write to?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I prefer silence. As someone who absolutely loves music, I cannot ignore great songs in the background while attempting to write something meaningful. </span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: What’s your favourite writing spot?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Most of the first drafts of my manuscripts are written while lying in bed with a laptop strategically placed on my lap. I call it the perfect writing position. Therefore, to answer your question directly, my favourite writing spot is the bedroom. </span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: Have you ever gone on a literary pilgrimage? Where?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While travelling around South Africa in 2016, although it was not a strictly literary pilgrimage, I visited John Dube’s grave. In 1930 Dube, mostly known for being the first ANC president, wrote </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Insila kaShaka</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (“Shaka’s Body Servant”) and thus became one of the first published Zulu authors. I also visited Nat Nakasa’s grave at the Heroes Acre in Durban. On the same 2016 trip, I visited the house (now a museum) where Olive Schreiner lived with her family in then Cradock, which has since been renamed Nxuba, in the Eastern Cape. I completed that trip by visiting Sol Plaatje’s grave in Kimberley. His book </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mhudi: An Epic of South African Native Life a Hundred Years Ago</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, was published in 1930, and thus made Sol – who is mostly known for being the first ANC secretary-general – one of the first black Africans to publish a novel in English. He also wrote </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Native Life in South Africa</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, which is a must-read for those of us who consider ourselves patriots.</span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: What habit distracts you most from writing?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It used to be social media before I took a four-year break. I recently crawled back, and I check it once per day. I have never had WhatsApp. One distracting habit that I still have is: when I am double-checking a minor issue on the internet, I get sucked into other related (and inconsequential, non-related) topics. </span>\r\n<h4><b>TRL: What books do you currently have on your bedside table?</b></h4>\r\n<b>Sihle Khumalo: </b><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Bible</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (Kings James Version) as well as </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Complete Illustrated Kama Sutra</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. On a serious note, it is </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Our Poisoned Land</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> by Jacques Pauw, </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The ANC Billionaires</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> by Pieter du Toit as well as TJ Strydom’s </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Koos Bekker’s Billions</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. 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