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"contents": "<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The thing about Parliament is that it comes with its own rules, processes and practices that put the spoke in political spin.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No decision was scheduled following Thursday’s parliamentary debate on the EFF motion calling upon “the government to close the Israeli Embassy in South Africa and suspend all diplomatic relations with Israel”. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That vote will only come in a full sitting of the House on Tuesday, 21 November.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But these parliamentary niceties give the governing ANC the weekend to finalise what International Relations Deputy Minister Candith Mashego-Dlamini on Thursday described as engagements and discussions.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Our government is in discussions on the matter of closing the Israeli embassy in Pretoria and we’ll need to take into consideration that it may affect our diplomatic presence in Palestine.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“The demands from South Africans for the closure of the Israeli embassy in Pretoria have merit…” said Mashego-Dlamini.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“(T)he government is engaging all relevant stakeholders regarding our diplomatic relations with Israel, given the war crimes and genocide we are witnessing in Gaza.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Freedom Front Plus Chief Whip Corné Mulder bluntly told the deputy minister there would be “definite, direct implications” for the six South African diplomats stationed in Ramallah, Palestine. They would lose their diplomatic status, would have to live in Ramallah rather than Jerusalem, as they do now, and enter Palestine via Jordan.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“If you expel the Israeli ambassador and cut all diplomatic ties with Israel, SA will not be in a position to play any role whatsoever in terms of any mediation or any chance to play a constructive, positive role to bring this conflict to an end,” said Mulder.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Not one Arab country which has diplomatic ties with Israel – Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, United Arab Emirates – has severed diplomatic ties with Israel despite what’s going on.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mulder added that South Africans would see on Tuesday whether the government would “do the right thing” and continue diplomatic attempts to solve this conflict.</span>\r\n<h4><b>ANC ‘open for engagement’</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was part of the verbal sparring and barbs lobbed across the virtual platform over the motion brought by EFF leader Julius Malema, expertly timed given South Africa’s positioning on this Middle East war.</span>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1941402 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/ED_475176.jpg\" alt=\"eff israel anc\" width=\"720\" height=\"480\" /> <em>Protesters at the Israeli Embassy on 23 October 2023 in Pretoria. (Photo: Gallo Images / Frennie Shivambu)</em></p>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In many ways, the motion rides on the back of strong public sentiment across South Africa that Israeli bombing and targeting of hospitals was disproportionate to the 7 October Hamas killing of 1,400 Israelis and the abduction of over 200 civilians.</span>\r\n\r\n<b>Read more in Daily Maverick: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/middle-east-crisis-news-hub/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Israel-Palestine War</span></a>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But as Mashego-Dlamini’s statement showed, the motion also puts the government – keen to see itself as an international player and negotiator – on the back foot.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ANC MP and Deputy President Paul Mashatile’s parliamentary counsellor, Hope Papo, highlighted some of those dynamics, emphasising that “we should not move alone” and end up isolated in southern Africa and on the continent.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“This is why, whilst we support the essence of this motion, we are open for an engagement with the EFF so there could be some amendments...</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“We will not close the embassy and cut diplomatic relations without putting conditions to that.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“If you do that (cut ties) full stop, then we close the opportunity for continued engagements with other stakeholders... and (lose) the ability to have influence on the situation,” said Papo.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He emphasised that amendments to reflect conditions were needed, “otherwise the motion will not be carried”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, unless the ANC and EFF get together before Tuesday’s vote to resolve sticking points, this motion is unlikely to succeed.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It wouldn’t be the first time. 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They would lose their diplomatic status, would have to live in Ramallah rather than Jerusalem, as they do now, and enter Palestine via Jordan.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“If you expel the Israeli ambassador and cut all diplomatic ties with Israel, SA will not be in a position to play any role whatsoever in terms of any mediation or any chance to play a constructive, positive role to bring this conflict to an end,” said Mulder.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Not one Arab country which has diplomatic ties with Israel – Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, United Arab Emirates – has severed diplomatic ties with Israel despite what’s going on.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mulder added that South Africans would see on Tuesday whether the government would “do the right thing” and continue diplomatic attempts to solve this conflict.</span>\r\n<h4><b>ANC ‘open for engagement’</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was part of the verbal sparring and barbs lobbed across the virtual platform over the motion brought by EFF leader Julius Malema, expertly timed given South Africa’s positioning on this Middle East war.</span>\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_1941402\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"720\"]<img class=\"wp-image-1941402 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/ED_475176.jpg\" alt=\"eff israel anc\" width=\"720\" height=\"480\" /> <em>Protesters at the Israeli Embassy on 23 October 2023 in Pretoria. (Photo: Gallo Images / Frennie Shivambu)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In many ways, the motion rides on the back of strong public sentiment across South Africa that Israeli bombing and targeting of hospitals was disproportionate to the 7 October Hamas killing of 1,400 Israelis and the abduction of over 200 civilians.</span>\r\n\r\n<b>Read more in Daily Maverick: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/middle-east-crisis-news-hub/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Israel-Palestine War</span></a>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But as Mashego-Dlamini’s statement showed, the motion also puts the government – keen to see itself as an international player and negotiator – on the back foot.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ANC MP and Deputy President Paul Mashatile’s parliamentary counsellor, Hope Papo, highlighted some of those dynamics, emphasising that “we should not move alone” and end up isolated in southern Africa and on the continent.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“This is why, whilst we support the essence of this motion, we are open for an engagement with the EFF so there could be some amendments...</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“We will not close the embassy and cut diplomatic relations without putting conditions to that.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“If you do that (cut ties) full stop, then we close the opportunity for continued engagements with other stakeholders... and (lose) the ability to have influence on the situation,” said Papo.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He emphasised that amendments to reflect conditions were needed, “otherwise the motion will not be carried”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, unless the ANC and EFF get together before Tuesday’s vote to resolve sticking points, this motion is unlikely to succeed.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It wouldn’t be the first time. In February 2018, the </span><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2018-02-27-parliament-historic-land-expropriation-agreement-reached-amid-south-africas-changing-politics/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ANC supported the EFF motion</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> for expropriation without compensation, also after some fine-tuning.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As Mulder drily pointed out in Thursday’s debate, “The EFF took the initiative, and the ANC will have to follow.”</span>\r\n\r\n<b>Read more in Daily Maverick: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-16-gift-of-the-givers-backs-motion-seeking-closure-of-israeli-embassy-following-gaza-office-head-killing/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Gift of the Givers backs motion seeking closure of Israeli embassy following Gaza office head killing</span></a>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That debate unfolded in the wake of the ANC and its alliance partner, the labour federation Cosatu, throwing their support behind the EFF motion – without mentioning the EFF.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Or, as Luthuli House put it in an ANC statement just ahead of the debate, “... the ANC will agree to a parliamentary motion which calls upon the government to close the Israel Embassy in South Africa and suspend all diplomatic relations with Israel until Israel agrees to a ceasefire and commits to binding United Nations facilitated negotiations whose outcome must be a just, sustainable and lasting peace.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In a statement, Cosatu’s international desk called on political parties in Parliament “to act decisively against the apartheid state of Israel for the horrifying war crimes against the people of Gaza and the whole of Palestine…”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A day earlier, President Cyril Ramaphosa, during an official visit to Qatar, announced that South Africa joined “many other countries across the world” to </span><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-15-ramaphosa-asks-international-criminal-court-to-probe-war-crimes-charges-against-israel/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">refer Israel to the International Criminal Court</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (ICC).</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“We have put through a referral because we believe that war crimes are being committed there. And, of course, we do not condone the actions that were taken by Hamas earlier, but similarly, we condemn the actions that are currently under way and believe that they warrant an investigation by the ICC,” said Ramaphosa in a video clip released by the Presidency on Wednesday.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This effectively was in line with International Relations Minister Naledi Pandor’s </span><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-07-pandor-calls-for-immediate-ceasefire-in-gaza-and-an-end-to-israels-collective-punishment-on-all-palestinians/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">statement to the House a week earlier</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, days before the Israeli ambassador to South Africa, Eliav Belotserkovsky, was démarched in the sternest rebuke short of expulsion. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pandor’s stipulations for addressing the conflict were repeated on Thursday – an immediate ceasefire, urgent humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza, a UN protection force, and the investigation of Hamas for holding civilians hostage.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The debate also included condolences to Gift of the Givers. The group’s Gaza representative since 2013, Ahmed Abbasi, was, according to a statement on Facebook, “</span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> directly targeted by the apartheid Israeli forces” as </span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">he and his brother returned from morning prayers.</span>\r\n<h4><b>Point-scoring</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Those moments of condolence stood in stark contrast to the point-scoring and often acerbic debate disrupted by frequent heckling.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Despite a point of order, Al Jama-ah leader Ganief Hendricks got away with saying, “Those who support the genocide in Palestine, like the DA, Action SA and ACDP… they behave like vampires.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">IFP MP Mkhuleko Hlengwa had earlier called for an immediate ceasefire, saying “the war must stop”, but argued against cutting diplomatic ties as this would isolate South Africa and leave the country unable to contribute to peace negotiations.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DA MP and international relations spokesperson Emma Powell used her time at the podium, regardless of the EFF’s points of order, to try to poke holes in the ANC’s foreign policy stance, pointing out South Africa’s abstention in the UN over Sudan, where three million children are among the seven million displaced by war.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“If the ANC cared about human rights or international law, it would not have remained silent in the face of Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In closing the debate, Malema sharply criticised fellow opposition parties but tactically opened the door to the ANC for another set of discussions.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“We are not opposed to amendment of any motion as long as, at the end of the day, we agree that the Israeli ambassador is dismissed,” said Malema.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How that unfolds will emerge in the vote in the House on Tuesday. </span><b>DM</b>",
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