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Even in some of the companies it was not told at all.”</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span ><b>The hidden hand of the Guptas</b></span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >Another unanswered question is what the Gupta-controlled companies did in order to secure the contracts with state owned entities. In the case of CAD House, for instance, its tasks included to meet with and lobby Transnet chief financial officer Garry Pita ahead of a crucial decision on whether Transnet should sign a R114-million IT contract. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >In order to get paid, companies like CAD House and GSS were required to provide SAP with a “complete and accurate description of the work done”. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span >“<span ><span >We have seen descriptions and we have seen documents – we have question marks to some of this to be honest. We have doubts about some of the services that apparently have been performed or some of the deliverables that have been mentioned. We have doubts that these are accurate,” Klarmann said. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >On the alleged meeting with Pita – which Pita denies – Klarmann said: “We could not establish that.”</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span ><b>The R500-million Lead2Cash deal</b></span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >Questions also remain about how Gupta-linked companies were selected as so-called supplier development partners, putting them in line for multi-million rand contracts with Transnet. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >In 2016, <a href=\"https://mg.co.za/article/2016-07-22-00-gupta-linked-company-in-r800m-transnet-tender-tango\">amaBhungane reported</a> on a failed bid by SAP to secure a R800-million deal with Transnet. The Lead2Cash project would have involved sub-contracting 60% of the project to a little-known Gupta-owned company, GSS, as its supplier development partner. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >Had the deal gone through, GSS would have received roughly R500-million. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >But did GSS, whose total revenue for the previous year was R53-million, have the skills to do the job? </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span >“<span ><span >There are conflicting messages about this during the investigation. That’s all I can say. We have conflicting messages from our own people and from others about these capabilities that you mention,” Klarmann says.</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span ><b>Three executives walk</b></span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >Finding conclusive answers seems unlikely as three implicated senior SAP executives have resigned. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >Although SAP refused to name the employees, amaBhungane has established that Lawrence Kandaswami, the managing director of SAP South Africa, and Deena Pillay, the chief financial officer of SAP South Africa, resigned late last year while Brett Parker, the managing director of SAP Africa, resigned last month. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span >“<span ><span >These executives categorically received no severance from SAP,” Fox-Martin said. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >However, amaBhungane understands at least one of the executives had received an annual bonus equal to about six months’ income. Asked about this, Fox-Martin said: “We have an obligation to pay what is due and that is the minimum that we paid.”</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span >“<span ><span >There are legal limitations to what you can do and we had to do it,” Klarmann added.</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span ><b>Investigations 'still ongoing'</b></span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >SAP is entitled to conduct an audit of the companies it signs as sales agents if it suspects that commissions were on-paid to government officials or politicians. Although SAP’s release states that no such payments were made, SAP also conceded that the audits of these companies were still ongoing. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span >“<span ><span >(F)rom what we have seen in the audit already we have not seen any such payment,” Klarmann said.</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span >“<span ><span >(T)here are limitations to what we as SAP can achieve in a complex investigation without having the investigative power of government authorities,” Fox-Martin said.</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >Also still ongoing is SAP’s investigation into other public sector contracts, including a lucrative contract it received from the department of water and sanitation.</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >In February last year, the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) published whistle-blower allegations that at least R35-million in kickbacks was paid to secure this contract. </span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span ><span ><span >At the time, SAP’s Brett Parker dismissed the claims as “factually incorrect and unsubstantiated”. SAP now says these allegations are “still under investigation”.</span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span >“<span ><span >For us at SAP this has been a deeply humbling and humiliating process. There’s no doubt we have considered it be an extremely serious incident in our business,” Fox-Martin said. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>DM</b></span></span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; \"><span><span><span><em>Photo:</em> </span></span></span><span ><span ><span ><i>Atul and Ajay Gupta </i></span></span></span></p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.3cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span ><span ><span ><span ><i><span >Scorpio is the Daily Maverick’s new investigative unit. 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