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Former anti-apartheid activist Lord Peter Hain, who had pushed Rees-Mogg to take that action, welcomed the decision and said he would now put pressure on the US to do the same.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Williams worked with Hain on his campaign against Bain and briefed Rees-Mogg with Hain last month about the company’s activities in South Africa, particularly its complicity in helping Zuma crony, the former SARS commissioner Tom Moyane, undermine SARS and prevent it from pursuing tax offenders. </span>\r\n<h4><b>‘Great personal and financial cost’</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Williams was working for Bain & Co during the time of State Capture. Hain told the House of Lords last month that Williams had “acted with integrity to offer them guidance in taking the right action and then, owing to their refusal, was forced to blow the whistle, at great personal and financial cost. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Mr Williams testified before the Zondo Commission and was praised by the commission in its report, but bears the burden of Bain’s defamation. 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Not a single person. Not even Massone was fired,” he said, referring to the then SA managing director Vittorio Massone.</span>\r\n\r\n<hr />\r\n\r\n<strong>Visit <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=in_article_link&utm_campaign=homepage\"><em>Daily Maverick's</em> home page</a> for more news, analysis and investigations</strong>\r\n\r\n<hr />\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Massone negotiated for three months and then got a pay-off. Every person who was in the Joburg office for those 10 years was involved. There were 60 Bain consultants who worked on the SARS project alone.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Williams said some had left the company, but others were still in South Africa or in other Bain offices around the world.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“To Rees-Mogg’s horror, I showed that some are in the London office.” Williams said all but one of the top management in Bain at that time had been foreigners, so when trouble hit, Bain just moved them abroad. He said the company then brought in people from abroad.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“And then they told us they had cleaned up shop. But they were just recycling the same people. If you’re going to clean up shop, you fire the people and bring in new people from outside. The person Massone was reporting to for his entire nine-year period in South Africa during State Capture is still in London,” he noted.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Williams added that the person who headed Bain’s finance in South Africa during the State Capture era was also still in London. He recalled that he had had a spat with Business Leadership SA (BLSA) when it had lifted Bain’s suspension because it said Bain had cleaned up its act. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bain eventually withdrew from BLSA to avoid being ejected.</span>\r\n<h4><b>Bain and Sasol</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Williams said Sasol should be asked why it was hiring Bain today and paying it hundreds of millions of rands, “with all that we know”. He said he was not aware of any other government contracts Bain might have, but he was sure it did. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Their business is booming. They have moved to new offices.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pretoria should follow the UK’s example by blacklisting Bain until it had made full disclosure and full amends, Williams said. Bain had refused to engage with the justice system. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Bain keeps telling us they’ve apologised. 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