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"contents": "<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Europe cannot save Ukraine from Russia on its own. It needs the US, says former Norwegian defence and foreign affairs minister, Ine Eriksen Søreide. </span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But the vital $60-billion aid package proposed by the Biden administration for Ukraine is unlikely to be approved by Congress before the US elections in November, she fears.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Søreide, of the main opposition Conservative Party, now chairs the Norwegian Parliament’s foreign affairs and defence committee. She says the divisions in the US over support for Ukraine are “devastating” for the embattled country which is entering its third year of trying to fend off Russian forces.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For this, Western weapons are critical, </span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">she told </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in an interview in Cape Town.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The European Union recently passed a $54-billion aid package to Ukraine – over Hungary’s objections. Norway agreed last year on a five-year support package of more than $7-billion for Ukraine. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“The challenge now, though, is that the Ukrainian needs are so great that Europe cannot fill the gap if the US pulls out. Russia continues its brutal attacks on Ukraine, and Ukraine has to continue to defend its people and itself. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“This is not a financial and money issue; it’s first and foremost an equipment issue – it’s about materiel. Much of the equipment Ukraine needs has to be produced both in Europe and in the US. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“It’s not going to be possible to do it alone, in Europe. 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This has now become an issue that is also difficult for Democrats because of the political situation in Congress.” </span>\r\n<h4><b>SA government tightrope</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Ukraine issue is also difficult for the ANC government which has tried to navigate between not criticising its political ally Russia and not alienating the West with which it has much stronger economic ties.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Constitutionally, SA has more in common with the West since both share democratic ideals.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Søreide said she had met her counterpart, Supra Mahumapelo, the chairperson of Parliament’s Portfolio Committee on International Relations, and members of the committee, as well as DA leader John Steenhuisen and the IFP’s Narend Singh.</span>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-904548 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Greg-SupraAceStep-option-3-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"europe ukraine mahumapelo\" width=\"720\" height=\"360\" /> <em>Supra Mahumapelo, the chairperson of Parliament’s Portfolio Committee on International Relations. 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(Photo: Ziyanda Duba)</em></p>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She had told them that Russia’s war against Ukraine was devastating not only for Ukraine and for European security, “but also for the signal it sends to other authoritarian leaders around the world if it turns out that you can win by using military force to change borders in today’s world”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She reiterated that Norway would have liked to see South Africa join about 140 countries which had voted in support of Ukraine in the UN General Assembly in 2022. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In an increasingly polarised world, one of the most important things was to uphold the international rules-based system which was threatened from many sides.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Putin in particular was trying to tear that system down and replace it with one where might goes before right.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Søreide said Norway felt that South Africa was its partner in upholding that rules-based international order, including at the United Nations. 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(Photo: Gallo Images / Sowetan / Alaister Russell)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_2048643\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"720\"]<img class=\"wp-image-2048643 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/06-9E7A9490.jpg\" alt=\"europe ukraine steenhuisen\" width=\"720\" height=\"480\" /> <em>DA leader John Steenhuisen. (Photo: Victoria O’Regan)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_1947842\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"720\"]<img class=\"wp-image-1947842 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Merten-Parliament-5-1.jpg\" alt=\"europe ukraine singh\" width=\"720\" height=\"399\" /> <em>The IFP’s Narend Singh. (Photo: Ziyanda Duba)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She had told them that Russia’s war against Ukraine was devastating not only for Ukraine and for European security, “but also for the signal it sends to other authoritarian leaders around the world if it turns out that you can win by using military force to change borders in today’s world”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She reiterated that Norway would have liked to see South Africa join about 140 countries which had voted in support of Ukraine in the UN General Assembly in 2022. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In an increasingly polarised world, one of the most important things was to uphold the international rules-based system which was threatened from many sides.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Putin in particular was trying to tear that system down and replace it with one where might goes before right.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Søreide said Norway felt that South Africa was its partner in upholding that rules-based international order, including at the United Nations. But she expressed concern that South Africa’s preoccupation with its membership of the BRICS group – which last year became BRICS-Plus with the addition of five new members – might “come at the expense of working with the UN and other organisations”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But she said Norway and South Africa were working, with other countries, at the World Trade Organisation in Geneva, to try to restore the trade dispute appeal mechanism which the US was opposing. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Without the appeal mechanism, the WTO’s trade regulation system would “more or less collapse and that would have serious consequences for all of us if there were not joint guidelines on trade.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">More broadly, she said Norway’s support for South Africa, including financial support since the anti-apartheid struggle, had been strong.</span>\r\n<h4><b>Israel genocide charges</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the other major conflict currently absorbing the world’s attention – the war between Israel and Hamas – Søreide said the good thing about South Africa referring Israel to the International Court of Justice on charges of genocide in Gaza “was that it used the international mechanisms and systems”. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She noted that Norway did not decide politically on whether a situation was genocide or a war crime but left it to the courts to decide. So she also saw it as positive that Israel had engaged seriously in the ICJ case because it was important to strengthen the authority and the legitimacy of the international judicial system.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She noted that Norway “condemned the horrible terrorist attack by Hamas immediately.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“We have also been equally clear that Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorism.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“But they also have to exercise that defence within the boundaries of international law. And they are overstepping those boundaries clearly.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She also noted that Norway was one of the few countries that had not suspended its aid to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine (UNRWA) as many – particularly Western countries – recently did after Israel alleged that 12 UNRWA staffers had participated in the attack by Hamas on Israel on 7 October last year.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Søreide said last year Norway had provided around $150-million in support to the Palestinians. It was also providing political support, including by chairing the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (AHLC) on behalf of the international community for the past 30 years.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“The situation now in Gaza is horrible, and devastating to see. And there are still around 120 hostages being held by Hamas who need to be released immediately.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“But what Israel has to do in addition to following up on the court rulings and give a report now within a month of the ruling, is also to take serious steps to separate civilian and military targets, to protect civilians and to let aid flow in and to also act proportionally. And this was also the very clear message from [US Secretary of State] Antony Blinken during the Munich Security Conference.</span>\r\n<h4><b>Two-state solution</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“And there is no other solution than the two-state solution and one has to continue to work on that. It’s not something you pull out of the hat and say this is going to be solved in the next month or so. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“But there is no other viable way either for the Palestinians or the Israelis. For Israel to enjoy security they have to have borders to live within. For Palestine to establish a real state, they have to have land and borders.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“They have to have solved the outstanding issues, everything from Jerusalem to borders, water, and the refugee issue. All the issues that have been on the table but not negotiated or discussed between the parties for the past seven to eight years, with no direct negotiations.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“That is why the AHLC format has been so important because that’s the only format where the parties have met around the same table to discuss practical issues, to discuss tax revenues, to discuss everything that can lead to more security for both parties.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She noted that an agreement had just been finalised for the taxes which Israel collects on behalf of the Palestinians to be channelled through Norway to the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Søreide acknowledged that the question of governing Gaza when the current war ended was still unresolved. 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