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"contents": "<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">An alien civilisation coming across our solar system would name our planet Ocean, for most of Earth is under water. Being air-breathing and living on the bits that stick out, we mostly regard the vast liquid blue that surrounds us as a beautiful but often scary “other”. Billions of us, however, rely on it for food. This is Part Four of a series about the relationship between the creatures below the sea’s surface and the people in boats who catch them</span></i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Read <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-01-lawless-oceans-forced-labour-on-rust-bucket-boats-in-a-cruel-sea/\">Part One,</a> <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-02-the-price-of-fish-chips-the-shark-slayers-and-an-unfolding-disaster-for-the-love-of-fried-fish/\">Part Two</a></span></i> and <em><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-05-quota-quagmire-and-the-crisis-of-fishing-boats-unable-to-fish/\">Part Three</a></em>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Against our technology, fish don’t stand a chance. We are using huge nets; efficient engines that allow boats to stay on the catching grounds for years; supply ships to keep them there; sonar and satellite tracking to know exactly where fish hang out; cold storage ships to keep fish refrigerated for weeks; and tens of thousands of boats in unpoliced open oceans… it’s hunting on steroids.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At that scale we’re not operating within the rhythm and cycles of nature; we’re vacuuming the ocean so fast, we’re driving down to the base of the food chain, leaving no time for stocks to recover. Species by species, catch volumes have been declining since 1996. This cannot end well.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A person who has spent much of his life tracking this process is Dr Daniel Pauly, a professor of fisheries and marine biology at the University of British Columbia. His research has revealed huge flaws in the data that global bodies use to estimate the health of the world’s oceans and has set up the world’s most reliable tracker</span><a href=\"https://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez/953?chart=catch-chart&dimension=country&measure=tonnage&limit=10\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">website</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to prove it. He was happy to share his findings with </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick.</span></i>\r\n\r\nhttps://youtu.be/C9t5MC7WXNg\r\n\r\n<b>Don Pinnock</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You work with very large data sets covering an entire planet. What are your key findings concerning the state of fish?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel Pauly</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: I’m one of the few fishery scientists working on a global scale. Most colleagues conceive fisheries as a local affair – that kind of boat targeting this kind of fish. To understand the state of fish you have to think globally, as we do for the weather system or the financial systems.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">People say that fish have no borders but that’s ridiculous, they have borders of temperature, preferred prey, etcetera. It’s the deep-water fishing fleets that don’t have borders. Chinese, South Korean, Taiwanese, Spanish, French. They go wherever fish gather, they move; you can see the clusters of vessels on the Global Fishing Watch tracker. They are the global system and they’re targeting the global south.</span>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1918261 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/China-has-the-largest-deep-sea-fishing-fleet-in-the-world-Supplied.jpg\" alt=\"state of our oceans\" width=\"720\" height=\"480\" /> <em>China has the largest deep-sea fishing in the world. (Photo: Supplied)</em></p>\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What are they catching?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Basically everything. China is a major player in fisheries, and also a big importer of shark fins. Shark meat is also increasingly consumed, and Brazil, for example, is importing huge quantities of shark meat. The EU, Japan, the US are big fish importers and much of it is coming from Africa, Oceania and South America. But you can’t rely on official catch reporting. South Africa’s Department of Fisheries has more information than it sends to the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO)</span><a href=\"https://www.fao.org/fishery/statistics-query/en/trade_partners\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">database</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. For instance, subsistence and sports fishing are not reported. It’s a big factor.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Around 400 people from various countries worked for 12 years to establish the corrected catch amounts, which are now on our website. We found that the world catches far more fish than what’s reported. So instead of 80–90 million tonnes a year, t</span><a href=\"https://fisheries-2023.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2020/11/FINAL-FCRR-28-1-Mombasa-ecosystem-model-Nov24.pdf\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">he world catch is in fact 130–140 million tonnes a year,</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> which is a 50% under-reporting.</span>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1918264\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Chinese-fishing-subsidies-Supplied.jpg\" alt=\"state of our ceans\" width=\"564\" height=\"366\" /> <em>The rise in Chinese fishing subsidies. (Graphic: Supplied)</em></p>\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You mentioned that another problem was subsidies.</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Big problem! The large fleets, including those from Asia and Europe, that fish in the Global South, receive enormous government subsidies. They couldn’t cover much of their operating costs without them. If you cannot make money or break even catching the fish that are produced naturally at a given place, then you shouldn’t fish in that place. Either there’s not enough fish for natural reasons, or you’ve depleted the local fish population through overfishing. Nature itself signals that fishing is not sustainable. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With subsidies, you can ignore this and continue operating in overfished or unproductive waters, catching whatever small population remains. Your costs, including fuel and crew expenses, are covered. So essentially, you can continue to overfish without facing the consequences, which would be financial ruin otherwise. Eventually of course you will lose your shirt, but until then you’re stripping everything.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It’s like subsidising Apple to keep producing its original Apple II computer. It’s crazy. Subsidies are not favoured by the conservation community and are opposed by nearly everyone except industry lobbyists. Unfortunately, these lobbyists hold significant power for cultural and political reasons.</span>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1918269 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Fewer-fish-graph-Daniel-Pauly.jpg\" alt=\"Depleting our oceans\" width=\"720\" height=\"490\" /> <em>We’re fishing down the food web, says Daniel Pauly. (Graphic: Supplied by Daniel Pauly)</em></p>\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So the fishing industry is digging far deeper into fish stocks than they should, preventing the possibility of recovery?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Precisely. And it uses dangerous reasoning. There are fishery scientists whom I call Vogons – you know, the bad guys in the book Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy – who defend the industry at all costs and they predicate their argument on profitability alone. They say fisheries are doing fine. In many cases they are, but at what cost? Apart from subsidies, having wiped out the previously abundant large fish, they’re targeting the now profitable squid, crabs, octopus and lobsters that were the food of the big fish.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’re fishing down the food web on a journey to the bottom. In 1998, I published a paper called Fishing Down Marine Food Webs</span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> which is my most cited paper. It was published in </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Science</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and it caused a big stink globally. But it was never accepted by the Vogons, who say the profits of fishing companies are more important than their contribution to food security. In the past, for example in the 1950s, we went after fish that were abundant, including in South Africa and not after invertebrates.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fishing down the food web happens globally, it’s an incredibly pervasive trend. The large fish have largely gone, just check the IUCN’s Red List for confirmation. Almost all the big fish in the world are on that Red List, including sharks. What’s not there are small species like herring, sardines, anchovies and the like. Actually we’re now replacing sardines with jellyfish in Namibia, right near the bottom of the food chain.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As a matter of priority, we have to rebuild fish populations embedded within functional food webs within “no-take” marine protected areas.</span>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1918277\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Sardine-catch-off-India-Supplied.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" /> <em>A sardine catch off India; sardines are being used to make fishmeal to feed farmed species. (Photo: Supplied)</em></p>\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In a recent podcast, you were talking about so-called “trash fish”. What is that?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: In aquaculture, we farm salmon and other carnivorous fish. These fish are not vegetarian, and so they have to be fed with fishmeal or other forms of proteins. There is more protein that goes into making salmon than the salmon contains. The aquaculture sector does not produce fish. It converts fish of lower price, into pricey fish.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Along the coasts of northwest Africa – specifically Mauritania, Senegal, Gambia – 14 factories popped up over the course of eight or nine years. All these factories produce one thing, fishmeal, which they will tell you is made from trash fish. But these fish are not trash, they are mainly sardine, the staple of local communities.</span>\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So what are we looking at up ahead?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: We will have oceans without big animals, a trend that’s exacerbated by global warming, which is deadly for larger fish. The reason is that warm waters contain less oxygen, and fish require more oxygen when temperatures are high. These two factors put pressure on larger fish, because they have larger bodies but relatively smaller gills. They extract oxygen through their gills, whose supply cannot keep up with the demand of their growing body.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, you have fisheries depleting the population of larger fish at temperatures making life difficult for big fish. That’s another global squeeze.</span>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1918260\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/A-deep-sea-trawl-The-Sea-Aroud-Us.org_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"424\" /> <em>Daniel Pauly warns of a future ocean without big fish, a state that is being exacerbated by global warming. 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"description": "<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">An alien civilisation coming across our solar system would name our planet Ocean, for most of Earth is under water. Being air-breathing and living on the bits that stick out, we mostly regard the vast liquid blue that surrounds us as a beautiful but often scary “other”. Billions of us, however, rely on it for food. This is Part Four of a series about the relationship between the creatures below the sea’s surface and the people in boats who catch them</span></i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Read <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-01-lawless-oceans-forced-labour-on-rust-bucket-boats-in-a-cruel-sea/\">Part One,</a> <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-02-the-price-of-fish-chips-the-shark-slayers-and-an-unfolding-disaster-for-the-love-of-fried-fish/\">Part Two</a></span></i> and <em><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-05-quota-quagmire-and-the-crisis-of-fishing-boats-unable-to-fish/\">Part Three</a></em>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Against our technology, fish don’t stand a chance. We are using huge nets; efficient engines that allow boats to stay on the catching grounds for years; supply ships to keep them there; sonar and satellite tracking to know exactly where fish hang out; cold storage ships to keep fish refrigerated for weeks; and tens of thousands of boats in unpoliced open oceans… it’s hunting on steroids.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At that scale we’re not operating within the rhythm and cycles of nature; we’re vacuuming the ocean so fast, we’re driving down to the base of the food chain, leaving no time for stocks to recover. Species by species, catch volumes have been declining since 1996. This cannot end well.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A person who has spent much of his life tracking this process is Dr Daniel Pauly, a professor of fisheries and marine biology at the University of British Columbia. His research has revealed huge flaws in the data that global bodies use to estimate the health of the world’s oceans and has set up the world’s most reliable tracker</span><a href=\"https://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez/953?chart=catch-chart&dimension=country&measure=tonnage&limit=10\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">website</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to prove it. He was happy to share his findings with </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick.</span></i>\r\n\r\nhttps://youtu.be/C9t5MC7WXNg\r\n\r\n<b>Don Pinnock</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You work with very large data sets covering an entire planet. What are your key findings concerning the state of fish?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel Pauly</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: I’m one of the few fishery scientists working on a global scale. Most colleagues conceive fisheries as a local affair – that kind of boat targeting this kind of fish. To understand the state of fish you have to think globally, as we do for the weather system or the financial systems.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">People say that fish have no borders but that’s ridiculous, they have borders of temperature, preferred prey, etcetera. It’s the deep-water fishing fleets that don’t have borders. Chinese, South Korean, Taiwanese, Spanish, French. They go wherever fish gather, they move; you can see the clusters of vessels on the Global Fishing Watch tracker. They are the global system and they’re targeting the global south.</span>\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_1918261\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"720\"]<img class=\"wp-image-1918261 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/China-has-the-largest-deep-sea-fishing-fleet-in-the-world-Supplied.jpg\" alt=\"state of our oceans\" width=\"720\" height=\"480\" /> <em>China has the largest deep-sea fishing in the world. (Photo: Supplied)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What are they catching?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Basically everything. China is a major player in fisheries, and also a big importer of shark fins. Shark meat is also increasingly consumed, and Brazil, for example, is importing huge quantities of shark meat. The EU, Japan, the US are big fish importers and much of it is coming from Africa, Oceania and South America. But you can’t rely on official catch reporting. South Africa’s Department of Fisheries has more information than it sends to the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO)</span><a href=\"https://www.fao.org/fishery/statistics-query/en/trade_partners\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">database</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. For instance, subsistence and sports fishing are not reported. It’s a big factor.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Around 400 people from various countries worked for 12 years to establish the corrected catch amounts, which are now on our website. We found that the world catches far more fish than what’s reported. So instead of 80–90 million tonnes a year, t</span><a href=\"https://fisheries-2023.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2020/11/FINAL-FCRR-28-1-Mombasa-ecosystem-model-Nov24.pdf\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">he world catch is in fact 130–140 million tonnes a year,</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> which is a 50% under-reporting.</span>\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_1918264\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"564\"]<img class=\"size-full wp-image-1918264\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Chinese-fishing-subsidies-Supplied.jpg\" alt=\"state of our ceans\" width=\"564\" height=\"366\" /> <em>The rise in Chinese fishing subsidies. (Graphic: Supplied)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You mentioned that another problem was subsidies.</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Big problem! The large fleets, including those from Asia and Europe, that fish in the Global South, receive enormous government subsidies. They couldn’t cover much of their operating costs without them. If you cannot make money or break even catching the fish that are produced naturally at a given place, then you shouldn’t fish in that place. Either there’s not enough fish for natural reasons, or you’ve depleted the local fish population through overfishing. Nature itself signals that fishing is not sustainable. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With subsidies, you can ignore this and continue operating in overfished or unproductive waters, catching whatever small population remains. Your costs, including fuel and crew expenses, are covered. So essentially, you can continue to overfish without facing the consequences, which would be financial ruin otherwise. Eventually of course you will lose your shirt, but until then you’re stripping everything.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It’s like subsidising Apple to keep producing its original Apple II computer. It’s crazy. Subsidies are not favoured by the conservation community and are opposed by nearly everyone except industry lobbyists. Unfortunately, these lobbyists hold significant power for cultural and political reasons.</span>\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_1918269\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"720\"]<img class=\"wp-image-1918269 size-full\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Fewer-fish-graph-Daniel-Pauly.jpg\" alt=\"Depleting our oceans\" width=\"720\" height=\"490\" /> <em>We’re fishing down the food web, says Daniel Pauly. (Graphic: Supplied by Daniel Pauly)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So the fishing industry is digging far deeper into fish stocks than they should, preventing the possibility of recovery?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Precisely. And it uses dangerous reasoning. There are fishery scientists whom I call Vogons – you know, the bad guys in the book Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy – who defend the industry at all costs and they predicate their argument on profitability alone. They say fisheries are doing fine. In many cases they are, but at what cost? Apart from subsidies, having wiped out the previously abundant large fish, they’re targeting the now profitable squid, crabs, octopus and lobsters that were the food of the big fish.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’re fishing down the food web on a journey to the bottom. In 1998, I published a paper called Fishing Down Marine Food Webs</span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> which is my most cited paper. It was published in </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Science</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and it caused a big stink globally. But it was never accepted by the Vogons, who say the profits of fishing companies are more important than their contribution to food security. In the past, for example in the 1950s, we went after fish that were abundant, including in South Africa and not after invertebrates.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fishing down the food web happens globally, it’s an incredibly pervasive trend. The large fish have largely gone, just check the IUCN’s Red List for confirmation. Almost all the big fish in the world are on that Red List, including sharks. What’s not there are small species like herring, sardines, anchovies and the like. Actually we’re now replacing sardines with jellyfish in Namibia, right near the bottom of the food chain.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As a matter of priority, we have to rebuild fish populations embedded within functional food webs within “no-take” marine protected areas.</span>\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_1918277\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"720\"]<img class=\"size-full wp-image-1918277\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Sardine-catch-off-India-Supplied.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" /> <em>A sardine catch off India; sardines are being used to make fishmeal to feed farmed species. (Photo: Supplied)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In a recent podcast, you were talking about so-called “trash fish”. What is that?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: In aquaculture, we farm salmon and other carnivorous fish. These fish are not vegetarian, and so they have to be fed with fishmeal or other forms of proteins. There is more protein that goes into making salmon than the salmon contains. The aquaculture sector does not produce fish. It converts fish of lower price, into pricey fish.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Along the coasts of northwest Africa – specifically Mauritania, Senegal, Gambia – 14 factories popped up over the course of eight or nine years. All these factories produce one thing, fishmeal, which they will tell you is made from trash fish. But these fish are not trash, they are mainly sardine, the staple of local communities.</span>\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So what are we looking at up ahead?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: We will have oceans without big animals, a trend that’s exacerbated by global warming, which is deadly for larger fish. The reason is that warm waters contain less oxygen, and fish require more oxygen when temperatures are high. These two factors put pressure on larger fish, because they have larger bodies but relatively smaller gills. They extract oxygen through their gills, whose supply cannot keep up with the demand of their growing body.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, you have fisheries depleting the population of larger fish at temperatures making life difficult for big fish. That’s another global squeeze.</span>\r\n\r\n[caption id=\"attachment_1918260\" align=\"alignnone\" width=\"720\"]<img class=\"size-full wp-image-1918260\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/A-deep-sea-trawl-The-Sea-Aroud-Us.org_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"424\" /> <em>Daniel Pauly warns of a future ocean without big fish, a state that is being exacerbated by global warming. (Photo: The Sea Around Us.org)</em>[/caption]\r\n\r\n<b>Don</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fifty years from now?</span></i>\r\n\r\n<b>Daniel</b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: If we don’t solve the problem of our global greenhouse gas emissions, we’ll lose most of our fisheries – but by then that will be the least of our concerns. The bigger issue would be the collapse of our food system, which is heavily reliant on agriculture.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the grand scheme of things, fisheries are a relatively small part of the global food supply compared to staples like wheat and rice. If we haven’t made substantial progress in curbing emissions long before 50 years from now, we’ll face extreme heat waves that will not only kill all the fish but us as well. </span><b>DM</b>",
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