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From finance to forestry and fisheries – South Africa’s new environment minister takes a pragmatic approach

From finance to forestry and fisheries – South Africa’s new environment minister takes a pragmatic approach
‘I realised that I am the custodian of the air that we breathe, and that’s a big responsibility,’ new Forestry, Fisheries and the Environment Minister Dion George told Daily Maverick.

We know Dion George is a finance man, having been the DA’s shadow minister for finance and on the finance portfolio for quite a while, but who is our new minister of Forestry, Fisheries and the Environment in South Africa’s government of national unity (GNU)?

What should we expect from the man mandated to ensure our environment is protected, not harmful to human health and wellbeing, free from pollution and ecological degradation, and to secure ecologically sustainable development and use of natural resources along with economic and social development?

In an interview with Daily Maverick in his new office in Parliament, Dion George was composed and clear that he would not be an “extremist” or an “emotional decision-maker” as he outlined his approach and priorities for his new role in which he aims to strengthen the link between the environment and the economy — although these were still “germinating” in his mind.

Despite no background in environmental governance, George said that when the DA was given its selection of portfolios under the GNU, he intentionally chose this portfolio for its broad impact on the environment and its economic potential – hoping to connect (or reconnect) more people to the local ocean economy, conservation and biodiversity economy, as well as environmental protection work. 

The minister said he viewed his role as an opportunity to strengthen the Department of Forestry, Fisheries and the Environment (DFFE) in the country’s economic cluster, as a mechanism both to alleviate poverty and protect vulnerable communities against food insecurity, water scarcity, biodiversity loss, heating and flooding – among other climate change impacts.  

“It is a potential job-generating department… I really did not know all of the details of it… It looks interesting. It looks exciting and I’m curious. I like to learn things, to know how things are working.

“What struck me is the very heavy responsibility that lies in this department – I think much bigger than I understood from the outside,” he said.



‘Trade-offs have to be made’

George noted the inherent tensions in his role, having to balance environmental protection with economic development, particularly in a country heavily reliant on coal as it seeks to reduce that reliance and move towards a low-carbon economy and meet global targets.

He was firm in saying that workers and communities had to benefit from the country’s transition to a low-carbon economy – how he intends to strike this balance remains to be seen.

“We often live in the grey space and I’m very good at navigating the grey. When I first arrived, everybody was like, gosh, this is a surprise appointment. Here he is, what does he think about stuff?

“My instinctive answer to the climate situation was, we need to go as fast as we can. South Africa wants to meet its obligations.

“I realised that I am the custodian of the air that we breathe, and that’s a big responsibility,” he said.

From a macro perspective, George said we had to fight climate change and that accelerating South Africa’s Just Energy Transition Investment Plan (JET-IP) was one of the ways to do that.

He said R1.5-trillion was needed over the initial five years to meet the country’s climate change mitigation targets under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change and ensure a just energy transition for affected regions, communities, employees and industries.

Regarding the climate change impacts on the ground, George said, “There are measures, but there should be more measures for poverty reduction and alleviation.”

“I see this department as part of the system where we can play our part in economic growth by sustainably leveraging our natural assets for job-generating economic growth… Trade-offs have to be made.”

George said Northern Hemisphere countries had a long time to burn coal and grow their economies, and those are advanced economies now. However, he said, South Africa was further behind on the development curve “simply through the vagaries of history”.

“We’ve got the climate that’s in peril and that impacts everybody, so it’s imperative. We can’t just say we’ve got coal and we’re going to use it, because it impacts us. The Western Cape is being battered by storms. Why? Climate change? Apparently… to a degree. We’re a water-scarce country, and we have droughts affecting people’s lives,” he said.

Read more: Slow start to funding for SA’s Just Energy Transition, but Acceleration expected

Inefficiencies, red tape, bureaucracy


In his first few days in office, George has been looking at the department as a whole to assess what works, what doesn’t, and how the department could become more efficient in delivering its mandate.

From his responses, the new minister appears to be eagre to become more familiar with the work of his portfolio.

Like many departments, the DFFE is mired in bureaucracy to such an extent that it leads to reduced effectiveness, frustrated stakeholders, loss of public trust, missed opportunities and inefficiency. 

As Daily Maverick’s Don Pinnock told George ahead of his budget speech last week, one area the minister could address to drastically improve the DFFE and the lives of small-scale fishers is to simplify the application form for small-scale fishing rights. The complex process has left fishers unable to receive fishing rights for the past 15 years, despite being fishers for generations.

In response to these and other grievances, George said he intended to initiate a review of the department’s regulations. 

“We are a regulatory department, so I would like to see if there are any regulations that are getting in the way of something, or if a regulation doesn’t have to be there. This talks to the point Pinnock made where he raised the issue about the fishing application form,” he said.

He was also looking at launching something along the lines of a “clean environment, clean government, tell the minister” campaign. “It’s still germinating in my head.”

“If you’re working in my department, and you know something or see something that you think is possibly problematic, that needs to be looked at — the behaviour of our people, for example, or in terms of our resources – you can tell the minister,” he said.

Conservation and wildlife protection


“When I was growing up, I used to go to the Kruger Park every year. Over the years, I’ve seen the most amazing things… elephants, leopards, rhinos... I’ve had the most amazing experiences there. It’s iconic – world-class. It is something that everybody in the world should want to go and see,” he said. 

At the same time, our country’s special biodiversity was being plundered and poached.

It is very disturbing that we have to cut off the horn of a rhino to protect it. A rhino is supposed to have a horn on its head. But that’s the unfortunate reality.”

George said he hoped to reconnect people with South Africa’s biodiversity.

Read more: ‘Ambitious actions’ — new environment minister outlines priorities for the year

“I am very concerned about how we connect our communities to our natural, unique biodiversity… We need to have conservation, or something like it, in the basic (education) curriculum. So that every South African child, at a very young age, knows there’s an environment and animals in it, and that it’s unique to us, and that they belong to us; every single one of those animals belongs to the people of this country.”

DFFE in the economics cluster


On the increasing instances and severity of climate change impacts on food security, water scarcity and vulnerable communities in South Africa, George said, “I don’t think there is a silver bullet solution.

“The only solution, and this comes from my finance portfolio days, is that we all agree that we’ve got a growth problem in South Africa… there isn’t enough economic activity – the role of government is to facilitate and to accelerate that so we can generate jobs… That’s why I refer to this as being in the economics cluster.”

How George intends to balance economic development with the protection of natural resources and the environment will be closely monitored during his term.

“That is a conundrum that is not so easy to sort out because, when you have populations living near or in fragile environments, there’s always going to be a trade-off – people are there and they are not going to go anywhere.

“We have to say, right, we have a community… then we have our natural resources that are here too, and they need to be protected… The way you protect it is you create a system that works for everybody, a system that works for the environment and a system that works for the people.” 

George said they had to make sure people could access the resources that they had, but that it had to be done sustainably.

The DFFE in the GNU


The minister has said he intends to “continue the good work of (former minister Barbara) Creecy”, but that the department is now under the direction of a DA minister in the era of South Africa’s GNU. 

George said, “There is no fundamental difference in how we [the DA] see climate change and how we see the environment. The DA has a policy that says that animals are sentient beings; that is a DA position. The DA also has a position on sustainable hunting that I think fits well into the department’s current area.”

George said that the phasing out of the captive lion-breeding industry, the protection of rhino populations and the protection of pristine areas “is not going to change”.

He backs the department’s position on not supporting the sale of lion bones and not trying to reopen trade in rhino horn and ivory. He also supports the latest iteration of the Biodiversity Bill, the White Paper on Biodiversity and the Climate Change Bill

“We have iconic species in South Africa, and we are unique in the world to have this heritage. I will always sway on the side of conservation,” he said. DM

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