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"contents": "<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On Thursday, 10 October 2024, a parliamentary meeting about the Office of the Public Protector’s annual report descended into a back-and-forth between Public Protector Kholeka Gcaleka and her impeached predecessor, Busisiwe Mkhwebane. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The meeting turned into a shouting match after Gcaleka told the committee Mkhwebane was “conflicted”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In September 2023, Mkhwebane infamously became the first Public Protector to be </span><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-09-11-national-assembly-votes-mkhwebane-out-of-public-protector-office-for-incompetence-and-misconduct/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">impeached</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. She has since become an EFF MP and serves on the Portfolio Committee on Justice and Constitutional Development, which has oversight of the Public Protector.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Her deputy, Gcaleka, was </span><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-11-01-ramaphosa-officially-appoints-kholeka-gcaleka-as-public-protector/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">officially appointed</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> as Public Protector on 1 November 2023. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While the meeting highlighted several issues in the Public Protector’s office, including budget constraints and overwhelmed investigators, the attention shifted to the conflict between Mkhwebane and Gcaleka.</span>\r\n<h4><b>‘Don’t disrespect me’</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It started when Mkhwebane questioned whether the Public Protector’s office had a new vision – specifically, whether Gcaleka had a vision – since, she claimed, her own plans were still in place. She also raised questions about additional security measures introduced for CEO Thandi Sibanyoni. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Gcaleka responded: “This committee has a member who is conflicted when it comes to the issues of the Public Protector because she is the impeached Public Protector.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She said some of the matters raised by Mkhwebane were “ventilated in the section 194 committee” into her fitness to hold office.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mkhwebane asked why committee chair Xola Nqola allowed Gcaleka to raise “nonsensical” issues. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“I don’t think it’s fair for you to allow this,” she said.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nqola attempted to stop the conversation by saying the best way forward was to move away from the topic. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, Gcaleka argued that her address could not be described as “nonsensical”. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Being a member of Parliament doesn’t give anyone powers to be disrespectful to the next person. I am the Public Protector and office bearer, and I am an officer of the court, being an admitted advocate. We owe one another mutual respect. It cannot be that you disrespect me,” she said. </span>\r\n<h4><b>Threats against Public Protector CEO</b></h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mkhwebane also raised the use of institutional cars and extra protectors by the Chapter 9 institution’s CEO, Sibanyoni. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Gcaleka then dropped a bombshell, claiming Mkhwebane’s husband, David Skosana, had threatened Sibanyoni over the former public protector’s R10-million gratuity claim.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Among messages, phone calls [to Sibanyoni], which were made by David Skosana, whom I also see is now on the platform, there was also an SMS from an unknown number.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Gcaleka said the threats had been reported to the police. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In 2023, Skosana claimed without evidence that deceased MP Tina-Joemat Pettersson allegedly attempted to solicit a bribe on behalf of the section 194 inquiry chair, Qubudile Dyantyi, ANC Chief Whip Pemmy Majodina and herself to make her protracted impeachment proceedings “go away”. </span>\r\n\r\n<b>Read more: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-06-14-at-sandton-press-conference-mkwebanes-reality-distortion-field-acquires-even-more-warped-dimensions/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At Sandton ‘press conference’, Mkhwebane’s reality distortion field acquires even more warped dimensions</span></a>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Skosana is now an MP with the uMkhonto Wesizwe (MK) party and during the committee meeting it emerged he was in the process of becoming an alternate member. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Gcaleka then described the message sent to Sibanyoni from an unknown number: “This I am going to read out so that I prove the conflict: ‘If Fighter Mkhwebane doesn’t get her money, we will pay your sons – and the sons’ names are stated – a visit, your choice.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“And this is amongst several threats that were made to the CEO,” Gcaleka said. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mkhwebane’s attempt to obtain her R10-million gratuity was dismissed this week in the North Gauteng High Court. </span>\r\n\r\n<b>Read more: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2024-10-09-mkhwebane-judge-dismisses-absurd-bid-for-r10m-gratuity/?dm_source=vectorengine&dm_medium=internal&dm_campaign=similar-articles\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yet another slapdown for Mkhwebane as judge dismisses ‘absurd’ bid for R10m gratuity</span></a>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She added that she could not answer security issues regarding Sibanyoni.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">MP Sibonelo Nomvalo, also from the MK party, intervened, and it was agreed that Gcaleka would bring a detailed submission about the security issues.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At that point Skosana also wanted a word because his name had been mentioned. 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