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Mantashe on exec exodus from Eskom, Transnet – ‘like mice running from methane in a mine’

Minister of Mineral Resources and Energy Gwede Mantashe offered this line to describe the alleged friction between Eskom executives and Public Enterprises Minister Pravin Gordhan.
Mantashe on exec exodus from Eskom, Transnet – ‘like mice running from methane in a mine’ An Extinction Bebellion protest outside Africa Oil Week in Cape Town. (Photo: Ethan van Diemen)

In a media briefing on the sidelines of the Africa Oil Week conference in Cape Town on Tuesday, Minister of Mineral Resources and Energy Gwede Mantashe – with a wink and a nod – said something is very wrong in the Department of Public Enterprises, but he was hesitant to say exactly what.

He shared his concerns after being asked for his take on the news that Mpho Makwana, now the outgoing Eskom chairperson, resigned on Monday.

Daily Maverick reported that Minister of Public Enterprises Pravin Gordhan announced Makwana’s resignation on Monday. This publication understands that the relationship between Gordhan and Makwana had broken down over the selection process for a new CEO to replace André de Ruyter. 

Read more in Daily Maverick: Eskom news

Makwana, who was at the conference on Tuesday, told this reporter that he had no more to add regarding his resignation and that “the statement released yesterday is the statement”.

Asked about the resignation and the alleged friction between Gordhan and executives at Eskom, Mantashe said: “Can I give you an analogy?” 

“As a miner – that is my background – if you’re underground and you see mice running, you don’t go and look and see where, what is it that they see. You just follow them,” he said. 

Mantashe Minister of Mineral Resources and Energy Gwede Mantashe answers questions on the sidelines of the Africa Oil Week conference in Cape Town on Tuesday. (Photo: Ethan van Diemen)



“Because when they run, half the time they’re smelling methane and then if you want to save yourself, just follow them. So then, when there is an exodus of executives in institutions, there should be a kind of methane that we should investigate. That is what we should understand. 

“A number of executives [are] just running like mice, running from methane in a very short space of time. Chairperson of Eskom, three black executives in Transnet and all those things. What is the methane that they’re running away from? I will not know that, I’m not in that space.” 

Daily Maverick has reported that Transnet CEO Portia Derby resigned at the end of September after three years at the helm of the state-owned transport company. The company’s CFO, Nonkululeko Dlamini, also resigned. 

Read more in Daily Maverick: After the Bell: How a loss of confidence in Transnet CEO Portia Derby saw her run out of track

In recent months, Derby had come under intense criticism from the mining industry for failing to fix Transnet’s rail network and ports. Minerals Council South Africa, which represents 80% of the mining industry, has been vocal in calling for Derby and Transnet Freight Rail CEO Sizakele Mzimela to be replaced.

Mantashe Extinction Rebellion staged a protest outside Tuesday's Africa Oil Week conference in Cape Town. (Photo: Ethan van Diemen)



The Transnet board was due to issue a report on the performance of the two executives after Gordhan directed them to assess their suitability for the posts. In addition to the most recent loss of Makwana, Derby’s resignation left two vacancies at critical SOEs – Transnet and Eskom – which Gordhan is tasked with filling, and has yet to do so.

Asked for more details about the source of this “methane”, Mantashe said that “in DMRE we are accused of giving space to people who were fired somewhere else to contribute. There is no methane there. It is in other portfolios that there is this methane.” DM

Comments (4)

Rob Rhodes-Houghton Oct 12, 2023, 01:26 PM

Clever mice. Not so clever politicians.

Peter Holmes Oct 12, 2023, 09:46 AM

I personally know two (white males, devoted to their jobs) senior ex-Eskom personnel. Both saw the writing on the wall when junior (black) colleagues with very limited experience and no institutional knowledge were promoted to positions where my two friends had to kowtow to their new bosses. Both left. One took early retirement, the other went on to become the South African MD of a multinational (electrical) corporation and is now a very wealthy man. The sqabbling between Mantashe and Gordham was irrelevant.

mpumzaa Oct 12, 2023, 05:34 AM

Mice can smell methane in mines and are able to run away from it. Mice have a very keen sense of smell, and they are able to detect methane at much lower concentrations than humans can. Methane is a colorless and odorless gas, but it does have a slightly sweet smell that mice can detect. When mice smell methane, they will typically run away from it as quickly as possible. This is because methane is a flammable gas, and it can be explosive at high concentrations. If a mouse inhales too much methane, it can die. Miners have long used mice as early warning systems for methane gas. If miners see mice running away from a certain area, they will know that there is methane present, and they will evacuate the area. There have been many cases of miners being saved by mice. In one case, a group of miners were working in a mine when they saw mice running away from a certain area. The miners evacuated the area, and just a few minutes later, there was a methane explosion. The miners were all unharmed because they had heeded the warning of the mice. Another example is the case of a miner named John Cadman. Cadman was working in a mine when he saw a mouse running away from him. Cadman stopped and listened, and he could hear the sound of gas escaping. Cadman knew that he was in danger, so he ran away from the gas. Just a few seconds later, there was a methane explosion. Cadman was the only miner who survived the explosion because he had heeded the warning of the mouse.

Middle aged Mike Oct 11, 2023, 02:19 PM

As a youngster in the 80's living in the UK I was ashamed to be a South African because of apartheid. Now I am embarrassed by what the drooling gravy guzzling imbeciles in the ANC government do to ruin the reputation of our country virtually every day.

Garth Kruger Oct 11, 2023, 04:08 PM

Mike: I often wonder where all the protest voices have gone? Now that we are a democracy the country can go to hell in a handbasket and no one overseas gives a fig. We can all vote now so it must be OK, right? There was an aricle in DM a while ago from Peter Hain blaming South Africans for not standing up. How do you stand up to this? I knew the ANC were going to be bad; I just did not think they could be this bad. And as far as entitlement and arrogance goes, the sky is the limit.