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I did not sense a negativity that could in the end lead to frosty relations between the two countries.”</span></span></span></p>\r\n<p lang=\"en-ZA\"><span style=\"color: #222222;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">The South Africans they know in common were golfers Gary Player and Ernie Els, Ramaphosa said, adding that Trump had played golf with Player recently. The SA president said he had spoken to Player shortly before his trip to the US because Player is close to Trump, a keen golfer.</span></span></span></p>\r\n<span style=\"color: #222222;\">“<span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span lang=\"en-ZA\">He loves his golf,” he said about Trump. “He asked me if I play golf and I said yes, I do play. 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So that is obviously what we would want to see in terms of promoting and pursuing a relationship between the United States and us.”</span></span></span></span>\r\n<p lang=\"en-ZA\"><span style=\"color: #222222;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Ramaphosa denied that his government was having second thoughts about implementing a decision by the ANC at its conference in December to downgrade the SA embassy in Israel.</span></span></span></p>\r\n<span style=\"color: #222222;\">“<span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span lang=\"en-ZA\">No, the ANC conference took a clear decision on this issue. And as the ANC we are determined that we are going to implement that resolution.”</span></span></span></span>\r\n<p lang=\"en-ZA\"><span style=\"color: #222222;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">But he added that “one should never count some of these things in terms of days and weeks and hours. We are obviously going through various processes ourselves and we are getting ready to have that decision implemented. So that one should not be concerned about that,” he said, adding that his government remained concerned about the plight of the Palestinians under Israeli occupation which was why he had mentioned that in his speech to the UN General Assembly this week.</span></span></span></p>\r\n<p lang=\"en-ZA\"><span style=\"color: #222222;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\">Ramaphosa had explained his government’s position on land reform again and again throughout his few days in New York. 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And they fully also understood the process we are involved in and were quite satisfied that we are going to handle this matter in terms of our Constitution, in terms of the rule of law and that we are not going to allow a situation where there is a land grab and where we descend into mayhem.</span></span></span></span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"color: #222222;\">“<span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span lang=\"en-ZA\">And they also understood the economic rationale behind having to deal with the land issue. They were very appreciative of the fact that, and were in fact appalled that land which is such an important resource was appropriated by a minority. 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And we’ve also explained that the solution we will come up with is going to promote social cohesion, is going to carry on helping to build the nation and that we will do it in exactly the same way as we did when we brought the end to the nightmare of apartheid.</span></span></span></span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"color: #222222;\">“<span style=\"font-family: Georgia, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: large;\"><span lang=\"en-ZA\">In an inclusive way, in a way where all of us become owners of the outcome we will have come up with. 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