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"contents": "<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DA leader John Steenhuisen has tried to deflect criticism of a reference to his ex-wife as “roadkill” by claiming it was a joke and that he was appearing on a lighthearted show. But gender activists say the comparison “</span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">even in jest, falls far short of standards of responsible and gender-sensitive political leadership.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Steenhuisen was a guest on an episode of the well-known </span><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVmsziAmZn0\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Podcast and Chill</span></i></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> last week, when host MacGyver “MacG” Mukwevho asked him what he understood roadkill to be. Steenhuisen replied: “It sounds a lot like my ex-wife.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In </span><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVmsziAmZn0\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the episode released on Thursday</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, Steenhuisen’s response elicited roars of laughter from MacG and co-host Sol Phenduka. The DA leader did himself no favours by following up with “flat chicken”. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Responding to queries on Sunday, Steenhuisen told </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick:</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> “I fully understand that the joke may have been in bad taste to some, but it is important to note that the podcast is a lighthearted and comedic take on current affairs and politics in South Africa where politicians are encouraged to show a lighter side of themselves.” </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Steenhuisen said he “thoroughly enjoyed” his time on the podcast and felt “that it is vital that we use these platforms to break down barriers and talk to each other as South Africans”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“I think it is more telling that the South African media have chosen to focus on one bad joke, rather than the hour-long discussion around issues facing young black South Africans, which hundreds of thousands of voters actively engaged with from across the country,” he added. </span>\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> understands there is considerable unhappiness among some within the party’s internal structures over Steenhuisen’s comment and his decision to participate in a </span><a href=\"https://mg.co.za/friday/2022-02-08-macg-is-leading-the-wave-of-misogynistic-podcasts/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">podcast notorious for misogyny</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in the first place. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, Steenhuisen’s chief of staff, Ryan Smith, said that to his knowledge “there have been no complaints laid against [Steenhuisen] following his comment”.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Podcaster MacG has fostered a reputation as a crude interviewer with a notable disregard for women and the LGBTQI+ community, and a line of questioning that has landed many of his guests in hot water. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Other politicians, including EFF leader Julius Malema and ANC national spokesperson Pule Mabe, have appeared on the podcast too.</span>\r\n\r\nhttps://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-02-16-sex-drugs-and-rotten-trolls-celebrity-gossipers-send-digital-standards-down-the-tubes/\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Steenhuisen’s remark unleashed a tsunami of backlash on social media, after the DA promoted the clip on Twitter. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Amid the outrage, there were also many users who lauded the DA leader for his “candidness”.</span>\r\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\r\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">? On <a href=\"https://twitter.com/MacGUnleashed?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@MacGUnleashed</a>, it’s <a href=\"https://twitter.com/jsteenhuisen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@jsteenhuisen</a> like you’ve never seen him before! Grab a drink and join John for some podcast and chill.</p>\r\nTune in today at 15h00: <a href=\"https://t.co/578tk1PE5u\">https://t.co/578tk1PE5u</a>\r\n\r\nDanko! <a href=\"https://t.co/phZWyIkXsc\">pic.twitter.com/phZWyIkXsc</a>\r\n\r\n— Democratic Alliance (@Our_DA) <a href=\"https://twitter.com/Our_DA/status/1560193879743283200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 18, 2022</a></blockquote>\r\n<script async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"></script>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“As a politician, I am not perfect. I make mistakes, and I may also make bad jokes. I accept that. But what this podcast has shown is that South Africans are clearly desperate to see a more honest, humane and relatable side to our politicians instead of the image that is overly curated by the media and its own agenda,” Steenhuisen told </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick. </span></i>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Speaking to </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> about the politician’s remarks, professor of political science and </span><a href=\"https://www.nrf.ac.za/core-mandate-business-divisions/risa-directorates/research-chairs-and-centres-of-excellence-rcce/south-african-research-chairs-initiative/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SARChI</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Chair in Gender Politics at Stellenbosch University, Amanda Gouws, said: “Roadkill is something that’s dead, right? So maybe he wishes her – the mother of his children – dead. In a country where there is so much violence against women, a comment like this is not funny, it’s misogynistic.”</span>\r\n\r\n<hr />\r\n\r\n<strong>Visit <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=in_article_link&utm_campaign=homepage\"><em>Daily Maverick's</em> home page</a> for more news, analysis and investigations</strong>\r\n\r\n<hr />\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Researcher in gender violence at Wits University Lisa Vetten told </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> that comparing his ex-wife to roadkill “shows a very high degree of hostility”, and “is dehumanising and aggressive”. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“To describe someone who is alive in that way, you could say, carries an undertone of wishing they were dead.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Labelling his comment as nothing more than a “bad joke”, Steenhuisen therefore “likens misogyny to lightheartedness”, Gouws explained. 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