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"contents": "<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The sharp differences between South Africa and the US over Russia’s war against Ukraine have not placed the Pretoria-Washington relationship “under duress”, says America’s new ambassador to South Africa, Reuben Brigety II.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While the US has fully backed Ukraine and is giving it with billions of dollars’ worth of weapons to try to expel the Russian invaders, South Africa has been studiously maintaining a “non-aligned”, uncritical position, for example by abstaining from every one of the several United Nations General Assembly votes condemning Russia’s aggression and its recent annexation of parts of eastern Ukraine. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yet, despite – or because of – those disagreements, President Joe Biden invited President Cyril Ramaphosa to a meeting in the White House last month, a rare honour. </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DM168</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> asked Brigety whether this invitation meant that relations between the two countries had not been badly affected by their differences over Ukraine? Or did it mean that Biden wanted an opportunity to try to persuade Ramaphosa to change his mind over Ukraine?</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“I don’t think those are mutually exclusive,” Brigety said in an interview in Cape Town. “I think the United States and South Africa have a broad relationship covering a variety of matters in terms of bilateral engagement and also in terms of our ongoing consultations on a variety of global matters, which of course includes Ukraine in this instance.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“But the fact that we may disagree or may take different approaches on any particular issue, even an issue of great significance, doesn’t mean that the relationship is in any way under duress. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“In fact the more we are talking and engaging with each other, the better we’re able to understand each other and hopefully find areas of commonality.”</span>\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Read in </span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick</span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: “</span></i><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-10-13-ukraines-foreign-minister-baffled-by-sas-abstention-from-un-resolution-condemning-russia/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ukraine’s foreign minister baffled by SA’s abstention from UN resolution condemning Russia</span></i></a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">”</span></i>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He noted that Ukraine had been discussed several times at the highest level, not only by Biden and Ramaphosa but also by their foreign ministers, Antony Blinken and Naledi Pandor. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“So, our countries remain in contact. I believe we are in agreement that the war needs to end immediately. The South Africans have stated that as well.”</span>\r\n<h4>Punishing African governments</h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In these talks, the US had also received “loudly and clearly” the South African government’s opposition to legislation before the US Congress that could punish African governments and companies for doing business with Russian companies and other entities. </span>\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DM168</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> had heard that Biden had assured Ramaphosa that he would veto the “Countering Malign Russian Activities in Africa Bill”, which has been adopted in the US House of Representatives but not the Senate.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But Brigety said it would be premature to talk about Biden signing or not signing the legislation when it was not even clear if the bill would be taken up by the Senate. Congressional aides recently told </span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DM168</span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> that the Senate had no intention of taking up the bill which it regarded as “ill-considered”. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brigety also shrugged off concerns that Biden’s strong support for Ukraine could be scuppered if the Republicans take over Congress in next month’s midterm elections, as they are widely expected to do.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kevin McCarthy, the Republican leader in the House of Representatives – who will become Speaker if the Republicans take the House – threatened this week that a Republican Congress would cut back on US military support to Ukraine. Other Trumpians also want to ease off Russian President Vladimir Putin. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But there are sharp divisions in the Republican Party as many leaders strongly support Ukraine . </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brigety said: “I am confident that the president will continue to work with Congress regardless of what the partisan make-up is and continue to pursue this policy.”</span>\r\n<h4>Just energy transition</h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brigety also clarified the US position on the Just Energy Transition Partnership (JETP) between Western nations and South Africa, after Public Enterprises Minister Pravin Gordhan took a swipe at some of the financing partners for not putting their “banknotes” on the table.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In 2021, the US, UK, European Union, Germany and France agreed to put up $8.5-billion in financing for the JETP which aims to help South Africa transition from its heavy dependence on coal-fired electricity to renewables, while safeguarding the livelihoods of coal workers and communities. </span>\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Read in </span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick</span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: “</span></i><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2022-10-02-why-africa-must-care-about-ukraines-struggle-for-freedom/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why Africa must care about Ukraine’s struggle for freedom</span></i></a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">”</span></i>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brigety said the US would provide about $1-billion of that amount. Almost all of it would come from America’s Development Finance Corporation (DFC), not in the form of cheques but as loan guarantees. These would mostly support loans to finance private-sector projects to create green power generation or transmission.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But Brigety noted that the US was still waiting for bankable projects from South Africa which the DFC financing could support. He also explained that the additional $45-million which Biden had announced when meeting Ramaphosa would essentially take the form of grants to finance the “just” part of the JETP – such as helping communities transition with training. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brigety clarified the US response to Ramaphosa’s announcement to Biden that South Africa had calculated that it needed an additional $38-billion over and above the $8.5-billion to finance a just energy transition.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Our perspective is: let’s get this $8.5-billion right first, to make progress and approve concepts. And then we’re happy to have a further conversation beyond that,” he said. </span>\r\n<h4>The matter of Agoa</h4>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The ambassador would not say what the Biden administration’s position was on whether or not to extend the African Growth and Opportunity Act (Agoa) when it expires in 2025.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He said it would be premature to do so before Congress had decided whether to keep it as it is, to change it or not to renew it at all. “And I can’t predict what Congress is going to do.”</span>\r\n\r\n<i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Read in </span></i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Daily Maverick</span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: “</span></i><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-05-16-losing-your-trade-marbles-on-agoa/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Losing your trade marbles on Agoa</span></i></a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">”</span></i>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The legislation, adopted in 2000, gives the exports of eligible African countries duty- and quota-free access to the rich US market. It has been particularly valuable to South Africa, boosting exports, especially of autos and fruit. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brigety said the US had heard “very loudly and clearly” from Pretoria and other African governments about how important Agoa was to them. But because Congress would have to re-authorise the legislation, it first had to be convinced. So, the African governments would have to have “meaningful discussions” with Congress.</span>\r\n\r\n<hr />\r\n\r\n<strong>Visit <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=in_article_link&utm_campaign=homepage\"><em>Daily Maverick's</em> home page</a> for more news, analysis and investigations</strong>\r\n\r\n<hr />\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He noted that more than 600 US companies were invested in South Africa, employing more than 220,000 people, and both sides would like to grow that investment. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, he noted that US investors had the same concerns as everybody else – mainly accessibility to electricity. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“It’s hard to know how you can have nationwide significant economic growth when you have… a modern industrial base but with challenging access to reliable electricity supply.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There was also concern about corruption, which Biden had raised with Ramaphosa in their meeting. “So, to continue to fight against corruption is one of the things that has to be done to ensure investor confidence over the long term.”</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the other hand, Brigety said, the fact that South Africa was a democracy, with strong courts and a strong rule of law, was a great attraction to investors. </span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He also disclosed that the Biden administration had no intention of scrapping the high tariffs on steel and aluminium imports – including from South Africa – which former president Donald Trump had imposed.</span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ramaphosa appealed to Biden to lift these tariffs, but Brigety said that “for a variety of reasons” – not related to US relations with South Africa – there was “no movement to revisit our tariff regime across the world, across commodities”. </span><b>DM168</b>",
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