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"contents": "Despite its unusual choice of protagonist – obsessive stalker and serial killer Joe Goldberg (Penn Badgley) – Netflix’s <em>You</em> is entering its fourth season, with audiences around the world streaming the many crimes he commits in the name of “love”.\r\n\r\nGoldberg’s narration (spoken directly to “you”, the changing subjects of his obsessions) draws viewers in with his backstory and attempt to use logic to explain his behaviour. His ability to manipulate situations to get the attention of his romantic crushes suggests that with strong belief and dedication to the pursuit of “the one”, we all can make others fall in love with us. As an academic who researches stalking, I think this message is dangerous.\r\n\r\nhttps://youtu.be/3COY_HrMngc\r\n\r\nPersistent unwanted contact from a potential or past suitor is not romantic. It is scary, it is uncomfortable, it is <a href=\"https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/controlling-or-coercive-behaviour-intimate-or-family-relationship\">stalking</a>.\r\n\r\nThough <em>You</em> is fictional (based on <a href=\"https://www.myimperfectlife.com/features/you-series-netflix-books\">the novels of Caroline Kepnes</a>), it depicts realistic characters and stalking behaviour. For example, Goldberg uses “neutralisation” (the internal justification used by a person to defend actions deemed wrong by society) to rationalise his violent decisions.\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https://www.jstor.org/stable/2089195\">A study in 1957</a> found that delinquent youngsters justified their behaviour through techniques of neutralisation, while stressing they were fully aware that their activities were illegitimate. Research into <a href=\"https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01639625.2022.2088317\">cyberstalking and harassment</a> mirrors these findings.\r\n\r\nGoldberg’s appeal is that he is aware of his actions but explains his logic in a way that is understandable to an emotional audience, who can relate to feelings of infatuation. This is concerning if some viewers start to mimic these sentiments and act on their emotions as the character they’re watching does.\r\n\r\n<em>Read more in </em>Daily Maverick: <a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-12-29-netflix-psychiatrist-phil-stutz-says-85-of-early-therapy-gains-are-down-to-lifestyle-changes-is-he-right/\"><em>Netflix psychiatrist Phil Stutz says 85% of early therapy gains are down to lifestyle changes. Is he right?</em></a>\r\n\r\nGoldberg is an exaggerated version of the romantic hero, who wants to court the heroine and live happily ever after. His obsession with locking down “the one” reinforces a fantasy myth that has been <a href=\"https://theconversation.com/valentines-day-a-brief-history-of-the-soulmate-and-why-its-a-limited-concept-198841\">told for decades</a>. Considering the <a href=\"https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/netflixs-you-track-40-million-viewers-1177025/\">extensive popularity of the series</a>, I’m concerned by the glamourisation of stalking and disregard of the criminal nature of Goldberg’s coercive tactics.\r\n<h4>What kind of stalker is Joe Goldberg?</h4>\r\nDeveloped by experts in the field, <a href=\"https://www.stalkingriskprofile.com/what-is-stalking/types-of-stalking\">The Stalking Risk Profile</a> gives professionals structured guidelines to assist them in making informed decisions about the risk and treatment of stalking perpetrators.\r\n\r\nThe set of categories considers the context and motivations for stalking behaviour, as well as its function. Goldberg exhibits traits of an “intimacy seeker” according to the <a href=\"https://www.stalkingriskprofile.com/what-is-stalking/types-of-stalking\">stalking categories</a>, but as <em>You</em> progresses, he fluctuates between the identities of a “rejected” and “resentful” stalker who feels wronged by others or wants to reconcile with his partner.\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1576463\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/file-20230220-26-vgnj611.jpg\" alt=\"Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in series four of 'You', set in London. Image: Courtesy of Netflix\" width=\"720\" height=\"535\" /> Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in Series 4 of 'You', set in London. Image: Courtesy of Netflix</p>\r\n\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1576462\" src=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/file-20230220-18-rb44de1.jpg\" alt=\"Victoria Pedretti as Joe’s former love interest, Love Quinn in 'You'. 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But when he manages to secure a relationship with his interests, his paranoia leads him down a path of violence towards anyone who threatens the potential union.\r\n\r\nThis happens in the form of the stalking, kidnapping and murder of his partner’s friends, former partners and eventually the romantic interest themselves. Goldberg’s motives to stalk continually change, but he constantly relies on his expertise to monitor his victims’ social media and track them down.\r\n\r\nhttps://youtu.be/WjSHKLFaYf8\r\n\r\nHe convinces the audience that he simply cannot help himself, though he tries many times to stop his obsessive thought and stalking fixations. But this is where the realism of <em>You</em> fades away. The violent path that Joe goes down <a href=\"https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/violence-in-stalking-situations/33E703FB8DBC6C820DAEB1F91028EBA8\">is less common</a> among real life “intimacy seeking” stalkers. 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